Caliph ‘Ali and Placing Hands below Navel in Salah – Chains Validation

In this post, i shall try to validate the chains and separate the lies from the truth In Shaa Allah. In this post, you will see how the Indo-pak self-claimed Ahle-Hadees Kharji(did you know British people gave this name to misguided muslims long time ago?) sect lies to innocent muslims and deceive them. This post will (probably)be more directed towards this cult leader Zubair Zai because without this guy there’s no Ahle Hadees sect in Indo-Pak. Before we continue, i want to tell you that this is not even a issue but these misguided cult like to make it one. 

Note: Zubair Zai was a big liar and we shall expose him on this site, you must know, he was infamous for his ugly lies and playing with the rules of Jarh wa Tadeel. be careful with this Kharji dog.

Allah says in Holy Book Quran

So pray to your Lord and sacrifice [to Him alone]. Surah Kawthar : 2

For this Ayat, a Tafseer has reached to us from Caliph Hadrat Ali radiallahu anhu which is:

Chain + Narration:

Abu Bakar Al-Asram »»► Abul Waleed At-Tayalisi »»► Hammad bin Salmah »»► Aasim Al-Jahdari »»► Uqbah bin Sah’ban narrates that, he heard from Hadrat Ali radiallahu anhu, He said “this means put your right hand on your left hand beneath the navel.” [Sunan Al-Asram Ba-Hawala At-Tamheed 8/164]

All of these narrators are of Sahihen except for Aasim Al Jahdari but he is THIQA too. as Imam Yahya ibn maeen said Al-Jarah wa Ta’deel num 1926

Now we shall mention here 3 lies of Zubair Zai, he used these lies to deceive innocent muslims.

Lie 1:

Zubair Zai said that ” There’s Al Ijaaj between Asim Al Jahdari & Uqba bin Sabhan and he is Unknown as said by Imam Bukhari in Tareekh Al-Kabeer 6/437 “

Answer:

Imam bukhari r.a is not talking about this chain rather is talking about a different chain which has different Matan as well and have these wording “place your hands on your chest Ala Sadrah1 and chain of the hadith for which imam bukhari r.a is talking about is:

Moosa (bin Isma’eel) »»► Hammad bin Salmah »»► Aasim Al-Jahdari »»► from his father (Al-Ijaaj Al-Jahdari) »»► Uqbah bin Zabyaan

But the chain we are validating is a different one and has different text which says Tahatas Sarrah.)below navel تحت السرّہ)

As you can clearly see, how badly this zubair zai british’s dog tried to deceive people into his lie and he is exposed now. he tried to mix these chains to trick people. damn.

Lie 2:

Zubair Zai said: In it’s second chain, there are different wordings which are: علی صدرہ on your chest. Tareekh Kabeer wa Sunan Kubra Bayhaqi Page 57

Answer:

Another deception caught. they bark all day that Weak narrations are a fitna maazallah yet look at them, instead of accepting the truth he is trying to hide behind a weak narration instead of taking the SAHIH Narration!! the narration he is talking about is weak because the narrator Al-Ijaaj Al-Jahdari is Majhool al haal! it’s ahle hadees belief that these narrators are weak!!

Lie 3:

Ibne Turkmani Hanafi r.a says: “there’s Idhtiraab in this narration’s chain and matan”

Answer:

He isnt talking about this chain without Al Ijaaj, he is talking about the chain that has Al ijaaj in it. turns out he is lying to deceive people into his cult. Imam Hakim authenticated this in his Mustadrak 1/586, Ibn abdull barr in Sunan Al-Asram Ba-hawala Tamheed 8/164; Ahkamul Qur’an 1/184.

Idhtiraab in Chain

From the route of Moosa bin Isma’eel »»► Hammad bin Salmah »»► Aasim Al-Jahdari »»► Uqbah bin Sab’haan [Sunan Kubra Bayhaqi 2/30] now look at the chain below

Moosa bin Isma’eel »»► Hammad bin Salmah »»► Aasim Al-Jahdari »»► from his father (Al-Ijaaj Al-Jahdari) »»► Uqbah bin Zabyaan [Tareekh Kabeer wa Sunan Kubra Bayhaqi]

Notice that theres an addition of a narrator and instead of Uqbah bin Sahban theres Uqbah bin Zabyaan!!

Idhtiraab in Matan(content)

In one narration wordings go like this: (عن على رضى الله عنه (فصل لربك وانحر) قال هو وضع يمينك على شمالك في الصلوة)

Theres no ala Sadrah in this narration.

second narration: (عن على (فصل لربك وانحر) وضع يديه اليمنى على وسط ساعده على صدره) this narration adds the wording “on your chest” 

Now as you have seen both of these chains, this is what Ibn Turkamani was talking about. It’s Mudhtarib and it’s a type of weak hadith.

Our original narration which we were trying to validate is:

Abu Bakar Al-Asram »»► Abul Waleed At-Tayalisi »»► Hammad bin Salmah »»► Aasim Al-Jahdari »»► Uqbah bin Sah’ban narrates that, he heard from Hadrat Ali radiallahu anhu, He said “this means put your right hand on your left hand beneath the navel.” [Sunan Al-Asram Ba-Hawala At-Tamheed 8/164]

See, theres no Idhtiraab in this chain and no Majhool narrator all are THIQA. It should have become clear by now that placing your own below navel in Salah is a Sunnah practice and a sunnah of Hadrat Ali as well!

stay away from the followers of Zubairi cult known as indo-pak ahle hadees/wahhabi/salafi Kharji sect. if you follow these cartoons you will not even realize that you are in their pocket.

also read:

https://www.islamieducation.com/placing-hands-below-the-navel/

  1. Tho Imam Ahmad ibn hanbal r.a disliked this practice but ahle hadees dont listen to us

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